Croatia: Stjepan Mesic’s antifascist claptrap – insults the truth

Stjepan Mesic Photo: Goran Jakus/PIXSELL

There’s no doubt in my mind that Croatia’s former president Stjepan Mesic would like nothing better than to be able to confirm with facts that today’s modern, democratic and independent Croatia was the sole product of antifascist efforts. He continues with his claptrap, contriving a warped plot, deceitfully attempting to rewrite Croatia’s modern history in favour of his visibly sick, based on falsehoods and morally corrupt ideas. The worst of these, the unforgivable lie, he has been pushing is that Croatian diaspora is pro-fascist or fascist. It’s to be noted that Mesic began this path of vilifying the Croatian diaspora only after members of the diaspora began, publicly, to question Mesic honesty as politician and individual.

While his views or public statements often appear shunned and ridiculed by the public in Croatia, while he seems to have lost just about all of his credibility as a pro-Croatian politician, he pushes on with his antifascist agenda, knowing well that his agenda continues to divide and rattle the society he pretends to protect from bitter political divisiveness.

Mesic appeared 30 May on “24sata TV” program 60 Minutes after many weeks being noticeably absent from the Croatian media (i.e. since the announcement that the corruption watchdog would commence investigations into some Mesic’s activities while president that suggest all may not have been above board. Investigations continue).

During the 60 Minutes interview Mesic said that Tomislav Karamarko (newly elected president of Croatian Democratic Union/HDZ and effectively leader of the opposition) does not understand what had happened after Woorld War II.

He does not understand there would be no Croatians if all Croatians had joined the Ustashe. It’s only because of the Croatians who had gone to the most correct side, to the side of antifascism, that we have Croatia, some don’t understand that, not even Karamarko who is a historian, he should know that. It’s a fact that NDH (WWII Independent State of Croatia) did not function as a legal state, that was a criminal system. We know that the war has ended, but today we need to be creative to find an exit from this crisis and ensure a better life for the citizens. We must not be divided my the motives that divided our grandfathers and fathers.”

To my knowledge Karamarko has not replied to the above statement. Perhaps Karamarko believes that Mesic should not be taken seriously and, therefore, does not deserve a reply?

But Mesic’s words must not be left unchallenged as they are often far from the truth (or fail to detail the truth) and it is indeed not acceptable that Croatian history is so tampered with.

Disecting Mesic’s sentences, phrases and words from the above TV appearance, giving them the historic truth things are and were (in only a few words) as follows:

  1. Croatian grandfathers and fathers during WWII were divided fiercely by their motives (for engaging in war):
  • Ustashe wanted an independent Croatia; there were some terrible war criminals among the Ustashe as alliance with Nazi Germany went on the track of exterminating the Jews; A number of the Ustashe war criminals have been convicted for war crimes.
  • Partisans (antifascists, communists) wanted Yugoslav federation; there were some terrible war criminals among the Partisans as they set about murdering Croatians (whether Croatian soldiers or civilians) who did not subscribe to their idea of communist Yugoslav federation; There have not yet been any war criminals convicted of these crimes essentially because the winners of WWII, together with the Jewish lobby, maintained (and still do) that murder of these people was in essence justified – even at the time when they raised their arms in the air, waved the white flag of peace!
  • Domobrans (Home defenders) defended Croatian state territory. In the latter stage of WWII many were forced to join Ustashe forces and many defected to Partisan forces, while others were imprisoned and executed like animals  by Partisans for no other reason except for being a conscripted soldier, defender of Croatian territory/soil.

2.  After WWII ended:

  • Ustashe & Home defenders and civilians fled Croatia, seeking refuge in the West – many tens of thousands were murdered by the Partisans in cold blood, not afforded the right to flee (Bleiburg massacres and Way of the Cross mass murders).
  • Hundreds of thousands of Croatians fled Communist Yugoslavia between 1946 and 1962 ( Yugoslav borders were closed so people fled) while 1960’s to 1980’s also saw hundreds of thousands emigrate to the West.
  • By late 1980’s Croatian Communist Party had barely 400,000 members, and great many of these were members because without being a Communist party member one’s career prospects in his/her profession were indeed bleak or non-existent.
  • By late 1980’s Croatian diaspora population (first, second and third generation émigrés) counted millions.

It is this diaspora that was crucial in Croatia’s successful battles for independence. It is this diaspora that fought for and with Croatia for independence. There were very, very few antifascists living abroad littering diaspora’s love of Croatia; there were Yugoslav antifascist secret police actively trying to discredit the Croatian diaspora with all sorts of criminal innuendo and set ups.

And even though Mesic had often said during the past 20 years that without the help of the Croatian diaspora there would have been no independent Croatia today, he had also, evilly and with lies, relatively recently branded the same diaspora as Ustasha’s (fascists).

It is not the truth that “we have Croatia” because of antifascists as Mesic would like the world to believe. Today’s Croatia is the effort of ALL Croatian sides from WWII and that was the monumental dream and the dream’s realisations of the first president of Croatia, the late dr Franjo Tudjman.

Tudjman headed the outstanding politics of uniting the Croatian people from everywhere and reconciling of all Croatians regardless of any debts of sins from the past.

It is high time that Croatian authorities wake up and finally process WWII communist crimes as a matter of urgency – for justice. Once this is done it should help significantly in silencing antifascists such a Mesic who seem to know no boundaries to deceit and lies.

To add an interpretation to Mesic’s appalling 24sata TV appearance: if all Croatians had been Ustashe in WWII, there would be no Croatians today because they would all have been exterminated by someone other than the antifascists or communists, who murdered just those Croatians who didn’t like antifascism? Antifascists must not be permitted to lay claim on Croatia’s democracy and independence because they, alone, did not make it happen. They NEVER made independence happen for Croatia, they fought against Croatian independence in WWII and after it. Many Croatians during WWII and after WWII despised the Yugoslav communist (antifascist) movement and that is why today’s Croatia stands free and democratic. Ina Vukic, Prof. (Zgb); B.A., M.A.Ps. (Syd)

Comments

  1. I thought Mesic was finally finished, gone with the wind, kaput, don’t want him around Croatian politics no more … Mesic is a traitor and a pathetic excuse of a politician. Yes he was antifascist – still President of communist Yugoslavia when Serbs and Yugoslav Peoples Army attacked Vukovar in 1991, then he quickly declared himself on Croatia’s side and crept close to Tudjman so Tudjman’s great results rub off on him. That’s how active antifascists contributed to independent Croatia: they stayed communists and pro-Yugoslavia while pretending to be pro-Croatia and democracy. Can’r stand the site of Stipe Mesic.

  2. Frank B. says:

    Stjepan Mesic should have faced court for treason a long time ago. Had all Croatians gone into Ustashi during WWII then Croatia would be all the way to River Drina today, Partisans aka antifascists aka communists fought for a Serb controlled YUgoslavia NEVER for Croatia. Today’s Croatia was fought for with the life and blood of true Croatian patriots not antifascist scum, WWII criminals and parasites. Yes some Ustashi were criminals but overwhelmingly the Ustashi were an army of people who loved Croatia, who wanted nobody else’s terrain but their own while Partisans like the Serbian Kings prior to them just went on stealing Croatian land for Serbian interests. Mesic should know that Croatia today was won by Croats despite the fierce opposition to democratic rule by the Serbs within it. I truly believe the sooner Mesic is out of sight the better.

  3. Martin Devetta says:

    I really don’t know any more who listens to what Mesic clown has to say and lie about. Why he is given the media space at all?! Media outlets should avoid him like the plague – for the good of Croatia. I can understand why you wrote about it on the blog since he was put on TV in Croatia – you had to point out to Mesic’s lies and idiocies, I respect that and like that. Just keep on looking after the truth Croatia, the WAr, and the Future and your words will be read by generations to come especially those whose first language is not Croatian but another, being descendants of Croatians long ago emigrated but never losing the love for motherland Croatia.

  4. Nick Hulman says:

    Hahahaha what words, Mesic must have totally lost his otherwise suspect wit…So there is no Germany, No Norway, No HUngary, No Austria, No France … oh, gee whiz, how many more nations are there that have no nationality of their own because they were in ways allies of HItler in WWII. Hahahaha, one can see through Mesic’s lies and antifascist bullish.. miles away, nasty stuff that.

  5. Suzana Marinovich says:

    Mesic says Tomislav Karamarko doesn’t understand what had happened after WWII. I.e. that he doesn’t understand that if all Croats joined the Ustashi there would be no Croatians today. What an interesting theory? Or is it evil and pure hatred for Croatia that Mesic emanates? Germans invented national socialism, they were all either in the Wermacht or the SS and still there were lots of them after the war ended. No one erased them. It would be good if Mesic would be so kind as to explain his theory further. Although, the fact is that no one murdered 300,000 Germans after the war like Tito’s antifascists who’d done exactly that to Croatians. One could be cynical and say to Mesic the opposite because if there were no Croatian antifascists, those several hundreds of thousands murdered Croatians would have had to be killed by Serbs, and that would not have been politically opportunistic, and so many more from Bleiburg would have survived had there not been Croatian antifascists! Well it’s early days to tell whether Tomislav Karamarko comes from the same kitchen as Mesic and the social democrat lot in government when it comes to brewing antifascists’ stews. Karamarko, if he wants to prove he has disassociated himself from Mesic a long time ago must take every opportunity to prove it and this was one opportunity missed.

  6. Mario Lah says:

    It really doesn’t matter whether Tomislav Karamarko understands what happened after WWII. What matters is that he holds the facts fast and starts pushing again for the processing of communist crimes as he did while minister of internal affairs with previous government. The only facts Karamarko needs are those that point to the direction of final address of antifascist crimes against Croatians and condemnation of Croatia’s antifascism. Modern Croatia is based on antifascism as stated in the Consitution but that antifascism IS NOT the one Mesic and his colleagues are and have been subscribed to. They justify and encourage murder of innocent civilians and Croatian soldiers after WWII ended and as these retreated and disarmed themselves, waved the white flag of peace. These antifascists are dogs, nothing more and nothing less.

    Mesic’s partisans made sure that there were less Croatians. Germans were almost all in Wehrmacht, SS … and even after the Russians, Americans and English sweepers they still exist as a nation, a most proud nation, and so would Croatian have been … So, Mesic is talking stupid but he does not deserve to talk of Croatian victims, it’s an insult to the victims. And as far as Tomislav Karamarko is concerned we still need to see what he is made of as leader of opposition…whether he will bend and cave in and show that he is from the same camps as Mladen Bajic, chief prosecutor, Ivo Josipovic president, Mesic etc …and omit to do Croatian WWII victims of mass murders by Partisans the justice they deserve, the justice Croatia must have if it will at all move forward into 21 st Century.

  7. majmun.

  8. Brankec says:

    Excellent summary of the real situation in Croatia during and after the second world war. And now, we have a free and democratic country that can put that past behind us and move on, largely thanks to Tudjman, Susak, Gotovina, and thousands of other brave men and women who sacrificed everything for this freedom. So it’s time to stop politicizing that which happened prior to 1990, admit that the 1940’s were chaotic and confusing, and base our constitution and future on the Homeland War and give the participants the credit that they deserve.

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