“The world knows what Serbian government is”

Conversation with former deacon of the Serbian Orthodox Church Bojan Jovanovic

Bojan Jovanovic, PHOTO: Screenshot Project Velebit

Serbia is shamelessly standing close to Russia at this time of the brutal Russian aggression against Ukraine and as I said in one of my previous blogs such a support would, in their eyes, feed well into Serbia’s own denials of its brutal aggression in 1990’s against Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina. On the one hand Serbia holds its arm extended to the EU for membership and with the other hand it reaches out to Russia, which reeks of opposition to EU and NATO! Well, Serbian government and the Serbian Orthodox Church have always been like peas in a pod, working in unison on matters of politics and political operations so I decided to look for credible texts and opinions regarding this and found this interview with Bojan Jovanovic.  I trust you will learn much from this interview.

Interviewer: Davor Dijanović

Interview in the Croatian language first published on March 11, 2022, on the Croatian Cultural Council portal

Translation of the interview into English: Ina Vukic

“It seems that the citizens of Serbia, no matter how intimately they want to become part of the European Union, every day they are one step further away from that desire and, that idea. The biggest obstacle are the choices they constantly make of people in whose hands they place their destiny.  The choices are about the elite that despises human dignity, and that contempt seems to be a patriotic obligation” – says the former deacon of the Serbian Orthodox Church, Bojan Jovanovic, with whom we spoke briefly.   

What class or layer of Serbian society governs Serbia?

Serbia is run by disguised UDBA agencies (TN: Former Communist Yugoslavia State Security Services), guided solely by their own interests. They have introduced a kind of soft dictatorship with which they affirm content that sounds nice to the ears, but in this way they lead citizens to the acceptance of seemingly simple solutions, when, in fact, it is about accepting sheer despotism. With this despotism, individuals create a compromise to their own detriment only to later wonder why things are the way they are for them.

The (TN: self-proclaimed) “heavenly people” seem to be in a kind of collective paranoia, and everything described leads that people into a vicious circle from which it is difficult to get out. In it, it is increasingly more difficult to present arguments of formed opinions, and it is especially difficult to fight against something that you consider already defeated. There is no way forward in Serbia until we realise that we are waging the wrong war. The war we should be waging should be a war of liberation from various people who are opportunely patriotic, but who are well trained in waging a profiteering battle against their own people.

What is the role of the Serbian Orthodox Church in such a gloomy state of Serbian society that you describe?

If you look at the history of the Serbian Orthodox Church, which lives a legacy of a kind of peasant piety, you will realise that this is the biggest opposition to the Serbian Orthodox Church’s positive changes. The clergy of the Serbian Orthodox Church largely live a life that does not suit them, and therefore the key question is: is the Serbian Orthodox Church at all what it should be. That is, is it the church that its pious believers want. The Serbian Orthodox Church ignores the fact that, like all of us, it has its ups and downs and that all members of its clergy know how to make mistakes. It would be Christian to admit it and repent. God is merciful. But it is not Christian to continue living in sin. Unfortunately, many members of the SOC hierarchy do what is diabolical, disgusting and carries with it the stench of abuse of power and status. The assessment mark for such (in) humanity and “Christianity” is “sit down, fail!”

With its behaviour, the Serbian Orthodox Church allows people beyond God’s and human laws to be role models for children and participates in creating chaos by combining psychosis and false hopes for a better life. The Serbian Orthodox Church is flying on the wings of the world to which it should have said “goodbye” a long time ago. It, as such, cannot be a messenger in the fields of the Lord.

Does the Serbian Orthodox Church have a role in the so-called Serbian world project?

The group of “adventurers” has been ravaging Serbia for decades and does not understand the time in which it lives. They did not even remotely dream that they would land in the Belgrade pashadom and that they would fall from their hard stance to begging for crumbs. From all that they could show, they only demonstrated that their fear is eternal. Because of this petty fear, fear for their own positions, they had to put the sword back in its sheath, that is, stop sending other people’s children to their deaths, and now they are silent like bugs. Despite this, they sometimes scream, especially when kneeling with their bare knees on corn. The world knows that the Serbian government is a dog that would like to bite even when you feed it.

Through several decades of compromising the clergy linked to pedophilia scandals and other criminal activities, the Serbian Orthodox Church has fallen into the hands of political adventurers who can return the church to the margins of society with the help of a pen. In addition to becoming the main beacon of the political project of the so-called Serbian world, the Serbian Orthodox Church, with its destructive activities, is causing problems for the entire region by abusing God’s mission. Its connections with criminal groups should also be examined in detail, and more and more people are writing and talking about it.

Now the Serbian Orthodox Church is a destructive element, a kind of paramilitary political institution whose main goal is to deny the statehood, ethnic and cultural heritage of other peoples, as well as to deny and humiliate every feature of others.

I don’t think there is a place in the world where one religious community does not respect the other and rejects the worldly government in the country in which it operates. This was first of all felt by Montenegro, partly by Bosnia and Herzegovina, and almost by Croatia. Fortunately, the Serbian Orthodox Church is recognised as the infrastructure of the criminal Greater Serbia project of the Serbian world, and very soon its work will find itself under an attack by the public and relevant institutions in those countries.

Porphyry in Zagreb, Porphyry in Belgrade. The same person or?

Serbia is constantly going downhill, there is no stabilisation. With the “Porphyry” project, the Serbian Orthodox Church is even further from spiritual catharsis and renewal because, like some disaster, it brought in a huge amount of sediment in a very short time.

Porphyry’s message to both Zagreb and Belgrade is that we can agree on everything in Christian love, but only if it suits him and his family. The choosing of Porphyry had as its goal the rehabilitation of the defeated movements and the denying their crimes. Porphyry is not a dove of peace. He is a mini project of Aleksandar Vucic. A black stain in the black history of the SOC. The only fortune for both Serbia and the entire region is that he will soon be the former patriarch of the Serbian Orthodox Church. Political and other winds that are now blowing in the direction of Serbia from the West promise rapid changes, especially in the Serbian Orthodox Church.

What is the attitude of the Serbian Orthodox Church towards the Russian Orthodox Church and its activities?

The Russians and the Russian Orthodox Church in fact despise the traitors of the betrayed state and treat Serbia, the Serbian government, and the Serbian Orthodox Church accordingly. They use our shame to destabilise the Balkans and achieve their goals.

On the other hand, the Serbian Orthodox Church is trying to be better in its profession, and its profession is subservience to the corruption of the Serbian government. This subservience is an attempt to justify all the shame and socially immature situations. Fraternal hand licking, especially the Russian one, is an attempt to survive for as long as possible and so on until a new opportune moment and a new legal and political framework. In a word, we give you submissiveness and cowardice, you give us the “wisdom” with which you can always mobilise us for some new hell.

What is the Serbian Orthodox Church attitude towards the Russian aggression against Ukraine?

Instead of seeking justice for the victims, all of whom are victims of the war started by Russia, the Serbian Orthodox Church, with its hypocritical silence and other actions, has stood by its powerful protector from whom it evidently receives its glaze. A large part of the clergy of the Serbian Orthodox Church is driven by a desire for power, a desire for domination over man. This borders on psychological disorder.

A few days ago, Porphyry stated that the Serbian Orthodox Church is collecting aid for the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, and in fact that aid will end up in the hands of the Russian Metropolitan in Kyiv. The Serbian Orthodox Church does not recognise the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which became the Autocephalous Tomos of the Ecumenical Patriarch, it only recognises the part that is under the Russian paw.

In conclusion, I can say that the Serbian Orthodox Church is an organisation that works against the interests of its people and state. It is terrible that this sick ideology is being legalised within state bodies. Numerous documents testify to the grave manipulations and atrocities of part of the Serbian Orthodox Church. In a civilised society, such atrocities would be promptly sanctioned. Considering that this will not happen in Serbia for political and other reasons, the Serbian Orthodox Church will have to go through a kind of pedagogical awareness due to the pressure of the surrounding world. The world knows what the Serbian government is.

Croatia: Vicariously Reliving 1990’s Nightmares Through Ukraine’s Suffering of Today

With the brutal Russian attack against Ukraine many Croatians are reliving their own nightmares from early 1990’s. Serb and Yugoslav Army brutal attacks and senseless destruction against Croatia followed a similar pattern as is occurring now in Ukraine. God save the Ukrainian people from such bestial cruelty.

So, in Croatia it was in simple words like this: rebel Serbs living in Croatia who did not want Croatian independence from communist Yugoslavia decided to take over around 25% of Croatian territory known as Krajina, declaring it Serbian Republic of Krajina. The so-called Log revolution on that territory of Croatia is probably one of the most consistent events in contemporary Croatian history. This common colloquial name implies the beginning of the armed uprising of a part of Croatian Serbs, which took place on August 17, 1990, by blocking a part of the roads around Knin and Benkovac. Just as Russia has come to “aid” the Donetsk and Luhansk separatist republics in Ukraine, Serbia and Communist Yugoslavia Army forced their way into Croatia’s territory in their intent to preserve communist Yugoslavia and/or the creation of Greater Serbia state that would include areas of Croatia (and Bosnia and Herzegovina).

The war in Croatia was brutal but it was victorious for Croatia that fought as David in the proverbial David and Goliath War, as what Ukraine is fighting at this moment. But the European Union and the rest of the free world had punished Croatia for wanting to secede from communist Yugoslavia and imposed arms embargo! Ukraine appears to be receiving more aid than what it may need, and God bless today’s world for standing up for Ukraine and its sovereignty. It suited, I guess, the EU and the free world for whatever political agenda to label the attack against Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina as a civil war even though it was not. Such political treachery somehow justified in their own eyes the arms embargo against Croatia, to disable it from successful defence of its people’s lives. And then, when Croatia together with the massive financial and material help from its diaspora managed to defend itself and secure a magnificent victory over its attackers, suddenly as far as EU and the rest of the free world decided there was no civil war in Croatia or Bosnia and Herzegovina; they now decided it was an international conflict between member states of former Yugoslavia. This political treachery was manoeuvred so that the EU and the Western powers wagging their self-important tails through the United Nations corridors could indict people for war crimes! In the case of Croatian generals Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markac the indictments were false and it took years for them to prove their innocence at the International Criminal Tribunal in the Hague.

It is good to see that Ukrainians have such a strong backing for their fight to stay independent and free and this help could shorten the nightmare they are currently experiencing.

The Croatian Parliament, by a majority of 133 votes in favour and one abstention, accepted on Friday 25 February 2022 the Declaration on Ukraine, which strongly condemns Russia’s unprovoked aggression against Ukraine’s sovereignty, territorial integrity, and independence. During the debate, the ruling and the opposition showed a rarely seen harmony, with a message to Ukraine: “Croatia is firmly with you.”

The Declaration states that the Croatian Parliament strongly condemns the unprovoked aggression against Ukraine and its sovereignty, territorial integrity, and independence, and calls on Russia to immediately stop the military attack and withdraw its troops from Ukrainian territory.

The Croatian Parliament condemns the Russian recognition of the self-proclaimed regions of Donetsk and Luhansk because this act represents a gross violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty and undermines the foundations of the international order.

It is also stated that the Croatian Parliament gives full support to the territorial integrity, sovereignty, and independence of Ukraine within its internationally recognised borders, which is a fundamental determinant in relations and cooperation between the Republic of Croatia and Ukraine.

The Croatian Parliament expresses its full solidarity with Ukraine and the Ukrainian people and calls on the Government of the Republic of Croatia to provide humanitarian and technical assistance to Ukraine in this difficult time for them and for the whole peaceful world.

Among other things, the Declaration emphasises that in the context of the security situation in Eastern Europe, maintaining dialogue between all relevant international actors, calming tensions and aggressive rhetoric while respecting the international legal order and inviolability of international borders are key to preserving peace and stability in the region.

In ten points of the Declaration, the Croatian Parliament concludes that it is a secure, stable, and prosperous Ukraine in the strategic interest of all citizens of Ukraine, the European Union, the entire European continent, world peace and the international order.

Few people expected a war on the European continent in the 21st century, the war could have unforeseeable consequences for security and the economy, the world order has been called into question, what is happening is not just Ukraine, but all of us, said MP’s debate on the Declaration.

They strongly supported the sending of humanitarian and technical assistance to Ukraine and the expressed readiness to accept refugees from that country.

It was during the Serb attacks and aggression against Croatia that the world had become bitterly and sadly familiar with the term “ethnic cleansing”. Croats and other non-Serbs were driven from their homes in the Serb-occupied regions in Croatia; many forcefully taken to concentration camps for torture and death within Serbia itself and many murdered on their home doorstep. It is this dark reality from thirty years ago in particular that would seem to encourage Serbia of today and those Serbs in Croatia who sided with the 1990’s aggression to stand on Russia’s side and support Russia in what it is doing in Ukraine. Russia is doing to Ukraine today what Serbia did to Croatia in 1990’s and so it would be “handy” for Serbs if Russia wins in Ukraine and her victory acknowledged.

Evidence provides that Serbia has for several years been drifting away from the West, including the European Union which evidently it wants to join, and expanding its political, economic, and security ties with Russia as well as with China; both made up of strong and repulsive communist flavour. On Ukraine, Serbia has strayed even more dramatically from the European consensus, which is increasingly embracing a harder line against the Kremlin.  It is time that the West and the EU take a hard look at their accommodating approach toward Belgrade and show it that there are serious consequences for continuing this path, including potential sanctions. It is time for Croatia to take a hard look at its accommodating within its government the part of Serb ethnic minority that was directly and indirectly associated with the 1990’s aggression against Croatia and dissolve that association while maintaining the rights and needs of minorities in their daily living.  Ina Vukic

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